A New Era For Smiths.

[*Clangeddin]

The problem with mirhtril armor is not the stats (which are not FAR superior, when you get to the bottom of it, it's a +2AC*, hyperbole much. :rolleyes: ), the real problem with it is that it sends the armor down one category. Heavy becomes medium and medium becomes light. That means mithral full plate with medium armor proficiency that works with Battle Caster for warlock/bard so enter warlocks in mithral full plate casting at-will and you realize where the real problem lies...
Or rangers/swashbucklers using mithral breastplate for their combat style bonuses well this one is probably less problematic, but it's just to point out what is the real trouble caused by mithral armor.

* For heavy armor users with Heavy Armor Optimization, it would actually be a -2AC since the feat would not work with mithral full plates, ecc.

[*Jelkia]

Ah dunno if ets far superior but et does become tha only type ah armor most folks will want. Most every class tha wear armor gets ah boost by wearin Mithril variants. Tha's enough ta make et superior ta nearly everythin else at ets base.

[*SyntheticRose]

Mithral armor still requires proficiency with its base type. For other class features, it's considered one step lighter, but you still need heavy armor proficiency to equip a mithral full plate. Medium will not suffice. Common misconception.

Which turns it into something you either need to dip a class (and lose a caster level), or spend a feat to take. It's not actually a problem, it's just one of those things our playerbase seems to knee-jerk on.

[*Ceremorph]

Except that many of the most powerful builds in the game are already dipping those feats through single levels of cleric, fighter, blackguard, etc. But particularly for robe-wearing arcane casters, now they're spending epic feats to cast in any sort of decent armor.

Although the real terror lies with bards and warlocks, who by taking battle caster can not only cast in mithral full plate, but also while holding a mithral heavy shield. That's a +12 boost to AC, assuming the shield (which they would not be receiving any AC in the slot of previously) is enchanted to +5.

[*Tomekk]

Although the real terror lies with bards and warlocks, who by taking battle caster can not only cast in mithral full plate, but also while holding a mithral heavy shield. That's a +12 boost to AC, assuming the shield (which they would not be receiving any AC in the slot of previously) is enchanted to +5.

[*typh00nchicken]

Mithril armors make almost every other armor types completely obsolete, and yes, I get it. Warrior sorts, 2 more AC, ooh horrid! The same point exists, that 2 more AC and armor category downgrade as well as arcane spell failure reduction just make them superior all around, oh and none of those even count to enchantment limit. Once you allow mithril armors, well... all those other armors you have? They're not going to sell so well. :P It's going to be mithril armor or nothing else. Also medium armors? They're going to vanish from existence since mithril fullplate is going to make them as good as nothing.

Mithril ingots drop rates can be adjusted if they're too frequent and make too many questions. :P

My response to all this is "so?"

[*SyntheticRose]

Zalantar heavy shields are already a thing. Zalantar light shields are more often used (at 1 less AC) because 5% spell failure is still a bitch.

[*Mr_Otyugh]

Mithril armors make almost every other armor types completely obsolete, and yes, I get it. Warrior sorts, 2 more AC, ooh horrid! The same point exists, that 2 more AC and armor category downgrade as well as arcane spell failure reduction just make them superior all around, oh and none of those even count to enchantment limit. Once you allow mithril armors, well... all those other armors you have? They're not going to sell so well. :P It's going to be mithril armor or nothing else. Also medium armors? They're going to vanish from existence since mithril fullplate is going to make them as good as nothing.

Mithril ingots drop rates can be adjusted if they're too frequent and make too many questions. :P

My response to all this is "so?"

In such a case: So, no. :P

[*edmaster44]

....Omg ....how about...a new Crafting Systema with a nice UI so i don't have to Haul and sort and search through all those recipe to crafted a Single Longsword >_> so every time i log in as my Smith i don't have to hide and quake in fear as Cornelia orders 100 Weapons and armour from me..