Umd

[*KingLeoric]

Boot's magic simply can not be utilized by a non-monk PC for example (for some magical reason it wont be beneficial for you to improve your 'unarmed monk-style combat stance' as a rogue)? So they are just... like non-magical boots.

[*Shadowcryer]

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Oh my...

[*KingLeoric]

Well its like pretending to be a giant via Wizards Polymorph spell or via Enlarge Person... Not good.

[*Shadowcryer]

What if my definition of use magic device in this case is being taught the correct stances to use these boots without being an actual martial artist? Is that bad roleplay?

Perhaps. UMD is sort of "Changing the shoelaces" here, and knowing, how to tie them each time, without damaging your boots in combat/traveling.

[*Tomekk]

Ahh, so a character who has much greater combat skills (High BAB) doesn't know basic stances (Medium BAB). Makes sense!

Monk's basics and Barbarian ones are different. I thought it is obvious. It is not about AB. Roleplaying is more deep, than a simple mechanics, sir.

It is completely inconceivable that the much more skilled combatant learn the less skilled combatants techniques, I admit.

But you wont be knowing how to fist.

OF COURSE! YOU PUT THE BOOTS ON YOUR HANDS! How could I miss that obvious connection!?!?!

[*FiveWhats]

What if my definition of use magic device in this case is being taught the correct stances to use these boots without being an actual martial artist? Is that bad roleplay?

Perhaps. UMD is sort of "Changing the shoelaces" here, and knowing, how to tie them each time, without damaging your boots in combat/traveling.

So, if it's that easily justifiable, what's the problem with UMD or tumble?

[*Shadowcryer]

It is completely inconceivable that the much more skilled combatant learn the less skilled combatants techniques, I admit.

Does he look like a one, who knows/cares about a monk's stances and techniques for you?

[*Tomekk]

I don't know. I guess humans are incapable of learning something new.

However, he certainly looks like a guy who knows his way around in combat a lot better... and look, he's wearing boots!

[*edmaster44]

What the *** shit... I take a *** Nap and wake up to this shit. Who gives a flying ***, it''s just a game, And yes my character DOES have UMD cause she's a *** Rouge, Goodnight.

[*Shadowcryer]

So, if it's that easily justifiable, what's the problem with UMD or tumble?

Not everyone should to be aware, how to change magical shoelaces on magical boots and utilise their magic, to be able to wear these boots without destroying them or something...