Re: The New Ooc Room Rule

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*Mr_Otyugh
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Posted by *Mr_Otyugh »


ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote: If anything now we just have to all sit in the hall of mirrors.
I'm going to be first to say: go for it. :P
*Darkrob
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CheeseWedge,Feb 27 2017 wrote:
Darkrob,Feb 27 2017 wrote:I can't code and I can't build but I'm willing to carry the message back to the team. It's pretty simple actually... if I can't do it, I can't sell it. I'm looking for easy to implement solutions. Telling me that I have a poor attitude for doing that isn't that good either.
I was more trying to imply that the words present a poor attitude or tone. An easier solution is obviously preferable, but the way it was worded suggests taking tools for solutions out of the hands of the people wanting to create a solution. No offense was intended.
And no offence was taken. Hell, if a solution 'means' coding or building then I would also have to take back the names of volunteers to do it. So that option is still open (if even remotely) but in my shoes, as the one willing to carry the message, it's gotta be what I can do or what you can do... not what they can do (if that makes any sense).
*ewe
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Posted by *ewe »


Mr_Otyugh,Feb 27 2017 wrote:
ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote: If anything now we just have to all sit in the hall of mirrors.
I'm going to be first to say: go for it. :P
But what next when they create a rule saying we can't loiter in the OOC hall of mirrors room? "Oh no, they know what my armor really looks like! It's metagaming!"
*Mr_Otyugh
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Posted by *Mr_Otyugh »


ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote:
Mr_Otyugh,Feb 27 2017 wrote:
ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote: If anything now we just have to all sit in the hall of mirrors.
I'm going to be first to say: go for it. :P
But what next when they create a rule saying we can't loiter in the OOC hall of mirrors room? "Oh no, they know what my armor really looks like! It's metagaming!"
They can go to change their armors in the Civic Festhall still.
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Posted by *Darkrob »


ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote: I'm not willing to find middle ground for an unjust rule that is based on false claims.
I rather object and put up with the rule than agree to it.

If anything now we just have to all sit in the hall of mirrors.
Well if you're not interested in trying to find a solution, then I've little want to argue with you further. I'm only interested in resolving this for both sides, not just yours.
*ewe
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Posted by *ewe »


Darkrob,Feb 27 2017 wrote:
ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote: I'm not willing to find middle ground for an unjust rule that is based on false claims.
I rather object and put up with the rule than agree to it.

If anything now we just have to all sit in the hall of mirrors.
Well if you're not interested in trying to find a solution, then I've little want to argue with you further. I'm only interested in resolving this for both sides, not just yours.
The problem isn't even an issue. Server stability is not harmed by OOC room any more than any other room. People seeing the true form of a shifter briefly is not an issue either (there are at least four other ways we can tell you're a shifter from super high rolls in events to the multitude of buffs next to your character frame in party). We are manufacturing a problem and solution to something that does not exist.
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Posted by *CheeseWedge »


ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote: The problem isn't even an issue. Server stability is not harmed by OOC room any more than any other room. People seeing the true form of a shifter briefly is not an issue either (there are at least four other ways we can tell you're a shifter from super high rolls in events to the multitude of buffs next to your character frame in party). We are manufacturing a problem and solution to something that does not exist.

I doubt they are just making rules willy-nilly because they feel like it. It was obviously a perceived issue for at least a few people. Whether this is the best solution or not is still debatable, but I would not claim that no problem exists.
*ewe
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Posted by *ewe »


CheeseWedge,Feb 27 2017 wrote:
ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote: The problem isn't even an issue.  Server stability is not harmed by OOC room any more than any other room.  People seeing the true form of a shifter briefly is not an issue either (there are at least four other ways we can tell you're a shifter from super high rolls in events to the multitude of buffs next to your character frame in party).  We are manufacturing a problem and solution to something that does not exist.
I doubt they are just making rules willy-nilly because they feel like it. It was obviously a perceived issue for at least a few people. Whether this is the best solution or not is still debatable, but I would not claim that no problem exists.
If there truly is a problem, then it is clearly being covered up by fake news about server stability. After a reset most mages cast every single persisted buff in the entire game on themselves after going through the portal in the bazaar... how can that possibly be more stable?

And there's virtually no way for a shifter to not be uncovered, and most if it is due to their own role play and nothing to do with mechanics. Why would you go and make a 50str check as a halfling if you're trying to blend in as a real halfling? Then if someone calls you out as if you aren't really a halfling they just cry metagamer.
*Mr_Otyugh
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Posted by *Mr_Otyugh »


Oh stop it with the fake news nonsense. You're not fan of the idea, the point came across. Doesn't mean you need to say the same thing over and over again. x) It actually won't help the argument.
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Posted by *edmaster44 »


ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote:
CheeseWedge,Feb 27 2017 wrote:
ewe,Feb 27 2017 wrote: The problem isn't even an issue.  Server stability is not harmed by OOC room any more than any other room.  People seeing the true form of a shifter briefly is not an issue either (there are at least four other ways we can tell you're a shifter from super high rolls in events to the multitude of buffs next to your character frame in party).  We are manufacturing a problem and solution to something that does not exist.
I doubt they are just making rules willy-nilly because they feel like it. It was obviously a perceived issue for at least a few people. Whether this is the best solution or not is still debatable, but I would not claim that no problem exists.
If there truly is a problem, then it is clearly being covered up by fake news about server stability. After a reset most mages cast every single persisted buff in the entire game on themselves after going through the portal in the bazaar... how can that possibly be more stable?

And there's virtually no way for a shifter to not be uncovered, and most if it is due to their own role play and nothing to do with mechanics. Why would you go and make a 50str check as a halfling if you're trying to blend in as a real halfling? Then if someone calls you out as if you aren't really a halfling they just cry metagamer.
My favorite Halflings, the Not Halflings who carry a Lamp post and cry when we call them Not Halflings.
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