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*DigitalDragoon
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Posted by *DigitalDragoon »


FiveWhats,Jul 29 2016 wrote: I'm not saying it's a crowd you donut. The reality of the situation is that the poll is pretty irrelevant. The lack of interest in anyone voting in it doesn't really matter. You made this thread to insult the playerbase because you felt like you were being called out on "powerbuilding." I haven't been in game much lately and I haven't seen this happen firsthand, but I'm going to optimistically assume this actually happened and you're not just fabricating a story to be rude to people on the internet.

..which is weird, because I distinctly remember you complaining about vampire sacred fist powerbuilds in another thread.

Was this really about roleplaying?
I question this also.
*Love_on_a_Wire
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Posted by *Love_on_a_Wire »


Shadowcryer,Jul 29 2016 wrote:
Love_on_a_Wire,Jul 29 2016 wrote: I can see where you're coming from, but in said titular film directed and written by the The Wachowskin Brothers, the reality humans are all plugged into might be shared, but each individual's experiences and skills are individual.

How else would Neo, played by actor and literal immortal Keanu Reeves, transcend the limits of the Matrix?
Almost everyone has Tumble 10 exactly, and UMD 13. Not very "individual".
There's nothing about the Matrix that insures each and every human plugged into it share the same skills, only shared access to the same virtual reality.
*Shadowcryer
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Posted by *Shadowcryer »


FiveWhats,Jul 29 2016 wrote:The lack of interest in anyone voting in it doesn't really matter.
It matters. People can't accept their powerbuilder essense properly. I am trying to guide them, not to judge.
Love_on_a_Wire,Jul 29 2016 wrote:There's nothing about the Matrix that insures each and every human plugged into it share the same skills, only shared access to the same virtual reality.
I meant that they are all using the same disk to upload two exactly same skills of two exact values in their minds.
*FiveWhats
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Posted by *FiveWhats »


Shadowcryer,Jul 29 2016 wrote:
FiveWhats,Jul 29 2016 wrote:The lack of interest in anyone voting in it doesn't really matter.
It matters. People can't accept their powerbuilder essense properly. I am trying to guide them, not to judge.
No, it really doesn't matter. If you don't have anyone actually supporting what you're doing, you're not guiding anyone, Moses. Calling everyone powerbuilders that need to be guided to the correct path of not having 10 points in tumble or 13 in UMD is just plain silly. You can call us all sheep or Matrix clones (what?) all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that no one is agreeing with you. These are both things that people want to keep because of wands, monk boots or the slightest bit of extra AC for builds that don't have tumble as a class skill. If these things weren't so useful for a character, you might have a leg to stand on but that isn't the case.

Tell us how you really feel.
*Love_on_a_Wire
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Posted by *Love_on_a_Wire »


Shadowcryer,Jul 29 2016 wrote:
Love_on_a_Wire,Jul 29 2016 wrote:There's nothing about the Matrix that insures each and every human plugged into it share the same skills, only shared access to the same virtual reality.
I meant that they are all using the same disk to upload two exactly same skills of two exact values in their minds.
Well you should have said that, and not that they're all clones. "Clones" is an inaccurate term in this case, even if you had instead referred to the rogue replicating Agent Smith program, played by Hugo Weaving, utilized by the Matrix.

But if you're suggesting that the entire population of Sigil is akin to the crew of the Nebuchadnezzar, and that they've all chosen to upload the same two helpful packets of skills, I can see where the proper analogy starts to form.
*edmaster44
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from UMD to Matrix, nah i'm dog With this homies, This is crazy.
*Love_on_a_Wire
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Posted by *Love_on_a_Wire »


edmaster44,Jul 29 2016 wrote:from UMD to Matrix, nah i'm dog With this homies, This is crazy.
I'm not just going to sit here and let inaccurate comparisons to popular 1999s science fiction films fly idly by, edmaster. I'm sorry.
*edmaster44
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Posted by *edmaster44 »


Love_on_a_Wire,Jul 29 2016 wrote:
edmaster44,Jul 29 2016 wrote:from UMD to Matrix, nah i'm dog With this homies, This is crazy.
I'm not just going to sit here and let inaccurate comparisons to popular 1999s science fiction films fly idly by, edmaster. I'm sorry.
Nah when i say i'm down it's a Inner City way of saying "Rolf" Cause that's what i'm doing now, at the direction these post went, i literally can't any more.
*Shadowcryer
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Posted by *Shadowcryer »


FiveWhats,Jul 29 2016 wrote:Calling everyone powerbuilders that need to be guided to the correct path of not having 10 points in tumble or 13 in UMD is just plain silly.
I am guiding them to embrace a powerbuilding essense, not to reject Tumble/UMD crossclassing.
Love_on_a_Wire,Jul 29 2016 wrote:But if you're suggesting that the entire population of Sigil is akin to the crew of the Nebuchadnezzar, and that they've all chosen to upload the same two helpful packets of skills, I can see where the proper analogy starts to form.
You came to this. Good.
*Love_on_a_Wire
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Posted by *Love_on_a_Wire »


Shadowcryer,Jul 29 2016 wrote:
Love_on_a_Wire,Jul 29 2016 wrote:But if you're suggesting that the entire population of Sigil is akin to the crew of the Nebuchadnezzar, and that they've all chosen to upload the same two helpful packets of skills, I can see where the proper analogy starts to form.
You came to this. Good.
I mean, I would have came to it faster if you had stated it, and had not instead stated a different thing.
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