Conceptual Redesign Of Planar Binding Spells

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*Zasziel
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Posted by *Zasziel »


I read that was in place thanks to a new update (and thanks to Xndar), but cannot happen to find more info.

Would someone have some to share? :lol:
*Tsidkenu
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Posted by *Tsidkenu »


Planar Binding spells are now domination-type effects when used on native Outsiders and ignore relevant mind-spell immunities. Duration is round/ 4 levels & daze effect when used on PCs.

They no longer summon creatures, neither paralyse targeted outsiders.

Greater Planar Binding (8th level)
Effect: Targeted outsider or elemental of not more than 18 HD + 1/2 CL
Duration: 1 round/ 2 CL
Saving Throw: Will
Spell Resistance: No
Special: Caster receives a bonus/penalty on the DC relative to the alignment differences.

Same on Law/Chaos axis: +4 DC
Same on Good/Evil axis: +4 DC
Different on Law/Chaos axis: -4 DC
Different on Good/Evil axis: -4 DC

These DC bonuses/penalties are cumulative. A True Neutral wizard attempting to bind a Chaotic Evil Horned Demon will receive -8 to their DC, while a Chaotic Evil demonologist attempting to do the same will receive a +8 bonus.

Planar Binding (6th level)
Effect: Targeted outsider or elemental of not more than 12 HD + 1/2 CL
Duration: 1 round/ 2 CL
Saving Throw: Will
Spell Resistance: No
Special: Caster receives a bonus/penalty on the DC relative to the alignment differences, as above.

Lesser Planar Binding (5th level)
Effect: Targeted outsider or elemental of not more than 6 HD + 1/2 CL
Duration: 1 round/ 2 CL
Saving Throw: Will
Spell Resistance: No
Special: Caster receives a bonus/penalty on the DC relative to the alignment differences, as above.
*Zasziel
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Posted by *Zasziel »


Thanks a lot for the answer! :D

I guess Planar Ally works the same as Planar Binding?
*TheShadowWithen
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Posted by *TheShadowWithen »


Ally should still be a Summon but the summon has kinda always been terrible, Just use the normal Summon spells as they will Summon Critters based on your Alignment anyhow, Like Angels/Demons/Devils/Etc
*Strawberry Jam
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Posted by *Strawberry Jam »


Ally is conceptually a different thing yes, I believe it was also being looked at but differently, don't quote me on that tho. There are so many summon related discussions all over the forums.
*Zasziel
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Posted by *Zasziel »


Yes, I found for Planar Ally/Binding, info was the most difficult to get :P
I wonder what the summons are exactly now, with Planar Ally :rolleyes:
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