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Conceptual Redesign Of Planar Binding Spells

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:00 am
by *Zasziel
I read that was in place thanks to a new update (and thanks to Xndar), but cannot happen to find more info.

Would someone have some to share? :lol:

Conceptual Redesign Of Planar Binding Spells

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:00 am
by *Tsidkenu
Planar Binding spells are now domination-type effects when used on native Outsiders and ignore relevant mind-spell immunities. Duration is round/ 4 levels & daze effect when used on PCs.

They no longer summon creatures, neither paralyse targeted outsiders.

Greater Planar Binding (8th level)
Effect: Targeted outsider or elemental of not more than 18 HD + 1/2 CL
Duration: 1 round/ 2 CL
Saving Throw: Will
Spell Resistance: No
Special: Caster receives a bonus/penalty on the DC relative to the alignment differences.

Same on Law/Chaos axis: +4 DC
Same on Good/Evil axis: +4 DC
Different on Law/Chaos axis: -4 DC
Different on Good/Evil axis: -4 DC

These DC bonuses/penalties are cumulative. A True Neutral wizard attempting to bind a Chaotic Evil Horned Demon will receive -8 to their DC, while a Chaotic Evil demonologist attempting to do the same will receive a +8 bonus.

Planar Binding (6th level)
Effect: Targeted outsider or elemental of not more than 12 HD + 1/2 CL
Duration: 1 round/ 2 CL
Saving Throw: Will
Spell Resistance: No
Special: Caster receives a bonus/penalty on the DC relative to the alignment differences, as above.

Lesser Planar Binding (5th level)
Effect: Targeted outsider or elemental of not more than 6 HD + 1/2 CL
Duration: 1 round/ 2 CL
Saving Throw: Will
Spell Resistance: No
Special: Caster receives a bonus/penalty on the DC relative to the alignment differences, as above.

Conceptual Redesign Of Planar Binding Spells

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:00 am
by *Zasziel
Thanks a lot for the answer! :D

I guess Planar Ally works the same as Planar Binding?

Conceptual Redesign Of Planar Binding Spells

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:00 am
by *TheShadowWithen
Ally should still be a Summon but the summon has kinda always been terrible, Just use the normal Summon spells as they will Summon Critters based on your Alignment anyhow, Like Angels/Demons/Devils/Etc

Conceptual Redesign Of Planar Binding Spells

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:00 am
by *Strawberry Jam
Ally is conceptually a different thing yes, I believe it was also being looked at but differently, don't quote me on that tho. There are so many summon related discussions all over the forums.

Conceptual Redesign Of Planar Binding Spells

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:00 am
by *Zasziel
Yes, I found for Planar Ally/Binding, info was the most difficult to get :P
I wonder what the summons are exactly now, with Planar Ally :rolleyes: