cryptc,Feb 2 2010 wrote: Lost and not Found,Feb 2 2010 wrote: I have not tried it. But when you use wild shape, you attack by using a "Creature Weapon" granted by the shape. As a weapon, it wouldn't be far fetched for you to suffer from the -8 attack caused by the Sacred Fist vow.
Doubt it, since creatures with creature weapons get AOO if they don't have improved unarmed strike feat, so I suspect it counts as unarmed... would need to test to be sure though
I did some quick testing with such build as Monk 1/Sacred Fist 1/Druid 18.
I tested the character against itself using both elemental and plant shapes. Although the character screen showed what kind of AB my character should have had according to all rules, the actual attack rolls were all done with the "-8" penalty.
For example;
What was show in the character screen: 23/18/13
And what were the actual in game rolls: 15/10/5
Flurry of Blows would add cumulative -2 penalty to these attack rolls.
However, the funny thing was that the exact copy of my own character controlled by the AI did not suffer from the attack bonus penalty caused by the Sacred Fist code of conduct-thingie.
The testing was done in Vordan's Hero Creator.
And this thing was mentioned in the Druid Page, in addition to the Elemental Shape page.