Sigil: City of Doors

SavageAxe,Apr 27 2010 wrote: Yeah, I like the idea of being able to follow an entire pantheon (or a large portion of it). I think it'd be different if you're a Cleric or probably Paladin/Blackguard, but you could still stretch to fit.

wrote:Herger the Joyous: In your land one God may be enough, but here we have need of many Gods. I will pray to all of them for you. Do not be offended! Good bye Arab!
Ahmed Ibn Fahdlan: Good bye, North man

- the 13th Warrior

Gods I loved that movie.

I would suggest Favored Soul 26, Cleric 1, Palidin 2 and fighter 1.

(Good HP, AB, 30 Caster level, Excellent Saves, Persistent buffs, Weapon of Impact, Damge Resistance 10/Cold Iron, etc.)

You can see this build here: http://nwn2db.com/build.php?id=24360&version=1

or

Favored Soul 16, Stormlord 10, Cleric 1 and Palidin 2.

If I recall correctly you can still cast all your stormlord buffs onto your Hammer, but you will not have the +3 AB (obviously). I have never tried this build though.

Does Paladin really work for Thor though? Especially with the alignment restriction... Thor just screams Chaotic to me, IMO. Pretty much all the Norse deities do, with a couple exceptions.

A true worshipper of Thor would laugh at a paladin as a sissy warrior of sillier gods. The Aesir are gods for mead drinkin' brawlers. Fighting is heaven, Valhalla is all drinkin', feastin' and brawling until Ragnarök comes.

Shoving Paladin into an Aesir worshipping character is purely for powerbuilding.

Of course the whole DnD representation of the Aesir is silly since they were not "good" gods. Odin accepted blood sacrifice, mostly animals but at times human slaves as well when it was important that the prayer be answered.
Alot of the early christians missionaries had to fight duels to get their point across, which of course usually did not end well for a pacifist monk, rest ended up as slaves or sacrifices.

The Vanir were more bent towards the whole good spectrum, fertility gods and such.

Thor was imaged as a barbarian warrior, a paragon of manliness. IN a drinking contest he was fooled into drinking from an enchanted horn, the horn was tied to the ocean and Thor drank until he sea level was lowered.
He fished Jormungandr, well pulled up the world serpents head at least.

There is nothing paladiny to Thor, since Thor was a paragon of the norse and they were nothing like paladins.

Stormlord is very fitting for an Aesir worshipper. Thor was the god of thunder, and even Odin had a bit of that. '

Spirit Shaman, Favored Soul, Druid, Wizard, Barbarian, Fighter and Bard are good base classes for any Norse themed character. Cleric, Rogue and Sorcerer could work.
Stormlords, Frenzied Berserkers, Warpriest and rarely Weapon Masters are good PrCs.

Ravenous,Apr 27 2010 wrote: Spirit Shaman, Favored Soul, Druid, Wizard, Barbarian, Fighter and Bard are good base classes for any Norse themed character. Cleric, Rogue and Sorcerer could work.

Rogue/Cleric and Rogue/Sorcerer scream Loki. Backstabbing and Fire fire fire!!

Mischief and trickery to be more precise.

Edge-of-Oblivion,Apr 27 2010 wrote:

Ravenous,Apr 27 2010 wrote: Spirit Shaman, Favored Soul, Druid, Wizard, Barbarian, Fighter and Bard are good base classes for any Norse themed character. Cleric, Rogue and Sorcerer could work.

Rogue/Cleric and Rogue/Sorcerer scream Loki. Backstabbing and Fire fire fire!!

I actually made a Cleric of Loki already. Cleric 23/Rogue 2/Fighter 4/Shadowdancer 1. Time and Trickery domains. Dex-based, dual-wielding daggers. It worked very well, though I ended up remaking the character into a less spellcasting build.

If you are one of those fellows who think clerics should use canon domains, not taking NWN2's poor domain implementation into consideration, I can name three powers for the time Domain.

Labelas Enoreth, elven power, residing in Arborea.
Lendoth, one sphere power from Oerth, residing in Mechanus.
Tsuki-Yomi, Japanese power, resising in Elysium.

Lost and not Found,Apr 27 2010 wrote: If you are one of those fellows who think clerics should use canon domains, not taking NWN2's poor domain implementation into consideration, I can name three powers for the time Domain.

Labelas Enoreth, elven power, residing in Arborea.
Lendoth, one sphere power from Oerth, residing in Mechanus.
Tsuki-Yomi, Japanese power, resising in Elysium.

If that was a subtle troll at using non-canon Time domain for a Loki Cleric, cram it. ;)

Hmmmm, ok, read through this thread and have a few thoughts on it, cause it reminds me somewhat of what I've done with Animal.

A Thor focused character that wants to focus on Thor from a comic by Marvel, might love wings on his helmet and the like but a true viking sort, well the warhammer wouldn't be the only weapon they'd use, even if hammer is listed as Thor's holy weapon. Hence, doing something like a cleric/stormlord should be possible, gaining Thor's lightning on spears, thrown axes and the like.

The melee weapon they might use, if they are fortunate enough to ever get one, might be a warhammer that does electrical damage, perhaps does a daze or stun... or if a Dm is merciful enough, call lightning ability.

Savage Axe/Kithra commented on Frenzied Beserker and I noticed something interesting about that. The Frenzied Beserkers initial +6 strength bests the maximum +5 enhancement bonus we have on SCOD, so it does have some interesting effect AND barbarian rage stacks on top of that +6. So when raging and frenzying, even a fairly low barbarian/frenzied beserker has +10 strength, +4 con. The drawback though is a huge AC penalty... -4 or -6... not sure of the total, if both the barbarian rage and frenzy penalties stack.

The real strength though of Frenzied Beserker is not it's Frenzy. It's the cleaves, and free toughness feats. If you feature it in your build it gives a super cleave effect at only level 2 of FB that gives two additonal attacks at your full base attack bonus, after dropping an opponent, unlike the ONE normally recieved by Great Cleave. This often can proc more and more hits in a cascade around the fighter. The frenzied beserker super power attack helps make this cleave effect even more devastating and you have the choice of how much to regulate the decrease to your attack bonuses, between power attack and improved power attack. The Frenzied Beserker has a sweet spot of Level 5, for that power attack improvement, but it can be worth taking just for the Supreme Cleave and Toughness...oh and the huge d12 in hitpoints, base attack bonus etc.

Back to the Thor build. The appropriate fighter/Cleric/frenzied beserker/stormlord could be really devastating. Taking improved critical isnt' really necessary, because of the availabilty of keen, even for blunt weapons like the warhammer, but it might be good to take some ranged weapon enhancement feats if they work with thrown axes or such. Don't really know about if they do or don't but doing such would help the ranged attacks that the stormlord would be doing with thier axes or whathave you.

It seesm an alternative might be something more like Fighter, Weaponmaster, Cleric, Stormlord, but obviously no frenzied beserker.
(7/7/6/10?).