Triad Discussions - Issues To Solve

[*DarkArc]

Charae blinked at Garen incredulously.

"Are you serious? I just told you my suggestions and you ignored them and pushed them around like they were a grab for my faction. Does anyone else here remember who called for a summit inside the Fraternity's headquarters so that he could control the direction of the meeting?"

The dark elf took a breath, frustration from numerous meetings and arguments surfacing and coming to their boiling point.

"A command-directed investigation is standard protocol for a military organization when performance in a region is not up to level. The problem can be as internally as it is externally. It could also depend on the locations of the Harmonium outposts that while our headquarters are positioned functionally within the Lady's Ward, the Harmonium posts in the Hive are positioned strategically. Examining where they are, how they are manned, and what they are armed with as well as scrutinizing performance reports can allow their upper leadership to determine if a post is effective or not and whether or not there is any corruption within the ranks. The Mercykillers do investigations like this on a routine basis to posts that are far disconnected from our main headquarters in Ascheron and I would not doubt the Harmonium do this just as often.

Unless you have been in contact with the Harmonium's upper leadership, I can only surmise that your observation is without sufficient research and based solely on what you personally believe. As the Fraternity has no direct involvement in what the Harmonium does in the Hive, they are not appropriate representatives to suggest a tactical retreat. And don't tell me that a Notary is going to determine whether or not they need to pull out.

While your agreeing with Merium is unusual, I'd also like to point out her suggestion is in violation of the first tenet of the Mercykillers. We are enforces of the law and bring justice to those who break it. We don't tactically retreat when things get too hard. We don't just sit back and let those we might view as animals tear themselves apart because it is easier that way! The Fraternity is an order that views there are laws everywhere, and that includes the Hive. So yes, pardon my 'veiled insult' that suggests you are not loyal to your faction when you are going against your faction's own beliefs by trying to promote the idea that the Hive should remain lawless and we should just seal them up and let them eat each other.

Does anyone else here have a problem with that? Am I the only one here that thinks that abandoning the Hive is the wrong idea? Because the moment you withdraw from the Hive, who do you think will fill the void? The Doomguard, the Dustmen, factions of chaos that will take the chance to flood the Hive. You don't ignore a cancer because it's too difficult to deal with. You fight it or, powers be damned, you cut it out so that it doesn't spread to the rest of the body. Retreating is not only impractical, it is ludicrous, especially when we have resources we could be putting into the Hive yet the lot of you are too stubborn to realize it. If the Hive is abandoned, not only do you allow the forces of chaos to thrive, but you move the fight from a ward further back from us to the walls of our own.

So again I offer my suggestion. Harmonium conducts an investigation, they rethink their strategic placement of their outposts, enforce a curfew, and reinforce themselves by either asking the other factions for manpower, or commissioning more from their home world. On the administrative side, the system of due process can be streamlined to allow those that patrol the streets to impose sterner enforcement up to even martial law. We can then better deal with the gangs by keeping them from assembling and attacking them at their roots."

[*LiquidDreamer]

Chari speaks but softly and mostly to calm everyone down. She does her her diplomatic skills.

"I am in agreement with the Mercykillers at this moment. I do not believe pulling out of the Hive is the correct thing to do right now. As Charae suggest, I suggest a systematic review of all Harmonium resources within the Ward to access their effectiveness. Those that are found wanting can be shuffled to other places in or outside of the Ward.

No one is questioning your loyalty Garen, far from that. It just seems out of character for us for a Fraternity member to suggest that we walk away from the Hive, the one ward that is the most need of law, order and stability."

[*Biohazard89]

Vale enters the room as quetly as he can, his equipment bearing the red colours of the Harmonium.

''My apologies for apologies for being late''

He bows slightly to the gathered assembly and takes a seat a bit behind Chari as he begins to sort and stack various field reports and other significant looking Documents.

[*Taurus Daggerknight]

Dace murmers something to Charae as Chari speaks, then looks up and nods to Vale. "Officer Vale, didn't realize you were back in town. Good to see you again."

[*MimiFearthegn]

Despite Chari’s calming words, Mover Bassem just had to get a word in edgewise – “Ye gods! Why all this talk of retreat? Did some phantom outpost get overrun and everyone but the Harmonium notice? Did Factol Sarin secretly ask the respected bureau chief for his aid?”

“The Hive’s no better or worse than it was last year, or the year before. Sure, they don’t care for the law, but that’s exactly why they need it! And the fickle residents like us plenty when we keep some Doomguard initiate from burning down their homes and shops, or when there's some unpopular gang member to sell out.

“As for resources – those of us stationed long term in the Hive have figured a few things out. A single officer off by himself gets picked off, so we don’t assign men to patrol by themselves. Nor do we try to control Xaositect holdings. We march through once on Factol’s day, just to remind them we’re watching. It works.

“Disasters happen when squads normally stationed in say, the Clerk’s or Lady’s Ward come marching in, but that’s a whole different mess. . .

“But look, all this talk of walling off is assuming the Hive even has real borders. It doesn’t! Every week the boundary shifts a block or two. Sometimes the Dabus do massive reconstruction projects that shift it more dramatically. We’d always be moving the checkpoints, and trying to stop up new avenues. Don't forget the smugglers would still just use undersigil to ferry things about, except they'd have even more convenient entrances on 'their side' to use. It’d be a greater nightmare than the current situation.

“Even worse, the Hive would only spread. What’s now half controlled would fall into complete chaos. All the people who didn’t fancy living in the Xaositect and criminal paradise will move to the Lower Ward, then the Clerk’s Ward. Will we then have another discussion about how those areas are too much for us to control?”

[*Biohazard89]

Vale nods to Dace then looks at the others.

'' Mover Bassem is right. If we abandon the Hive now it would be making us all look like we do not amount to the mandates we have been given, and then the people Lawful and otherwise will lose whatever respect they have for our Badges and our Work.

I have been Stationed in the Hive Before and while i agree that a Revision of Assets in the hive is required my suggestion and recomendation on a Course of action would be to cement a better public image, assign new recruits to more experienced units in lesser numbers at a times spread out over a wider amount of stations.''

Vale then looks to the others to hear their responses.

[*Viper901]

Garen tossed his pen onto the table and leaned back in his chair

“Very well. They are your lives to lose, do not say I didn’t try. My court will remain busy and the Dustmen will not lack for work either. If the consensus is to maintain the status quo, I’ll not argue further about it.

As for you, Factor he states to Charae, you fired an unwarranted and unnecessary insult across my bow on your opening remark, I’ll not forget that”

He then waited for the conversation to change directions before adding anything further

[*Taurus Daggerknight]

"Whatever consequences they have "brought on themselves" is besides the point. If we're to leave every misguided sod who brought ill on themselves to go ahead and suffer for it instead of doing our part, well... what do we exist for then? We do not do our respective jobs because people go down on their knees asking us to. We do it because it -needs- to be done. Because if we don't, there's that much more injustice we are blatantly ignoring in spite.

Fact is; we are not the Fated. We should never simply sit back and accept that a body should suffer because they brought it on themselves, nor should we condemn the genuinely innocent people in the Hive to the consequences of a lawless Ward. The only people who will benefit from a Triad retreat are the Anarchists and gangs, as there will be no one to oppose their endeavors. No one to bring them to task for murders, thefts, rapes and what have you.

[*DarkArc]

"I don't believe it is in the Triad's best interest to surrender the ward to the forces of Chaos, as the Fraternity appears to be suggesting to do. An action like that cripples the foundation of our respective orders, unless of course the Fraternity Bureau Chief no longer holds faith in his factional beliefs."

"Removing ourselves from the Hive from a tactical point of view is also counter-productive. If the Harmonium are struggling to maintain order in the Hive, then it is up to them to decide if they wish the other two of the alliance to assist them. They're the ones spending the resources after all."

"What I would suggest is for the Harmonium stationed in the Hive to request aid from the other factions. I would also suggest an evaluation of the performances of the officers within the Harmonium and see if they have been operating effectively, replacing them with more competent officers if they were not. Stronger patrols, implementing a curfew, and a more streamline and stern justice process until such a time the ward is under control. Does anyone else agree?"

[*Plaxy100]

With all do respect, Factor, I fairly certian you cannot surrender something you've never had. I believe what the our friends here is suggesting a tatical retreat to regroup and reorganize. Sending in men into a sure death situation is fool hardy.

I like to point out the ol saying a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush Right now, The Lady's Market and Clerk is ours and our current ventures in the hive are risking the Bird we have in the hand. Lets resecure our current possessions and then move.


and Justice Dace we are but one of many forms that dispence justice, the multiverse has many others. Call it Karma call it sow what you reap.

but lets state our mission. Is to Punish the guilty. Not protect Innocent, not Prevent injustice. no our cause is Direct we Punish those who are guilty of causing injustice.