some questions

[*Lost and not Found]

Ogre Mage as player character would have a level adjustment of seven.

Thus a level one character would be level eight character, with five levels of giant inside that level adjustment.

[*Dedic8ed]

Ogre Mage as player character would have a level adjustment of seven.

Thus a level one character would be level eight character, with five levels of giant inside that level adjustment.

Actually, no. Not to be contrary for contrariness' sake, the Ogre mage character would be a level five character, starting with 5 levels of giant, the ECL making them effective level 12 for advancement purposes, allowing a total of 18 additional class levels.

At least, that's what the sourcebook says (MM p200), as well as the gist I've gotten from Mr. O and (I believe) from posts in the race requests thread. But I'll wait to hear the truth from Crypt or Mr. O before insisting I'm right.

[*cryptc]

You have it right Dedic8ed

[*Lost and not Found]

And I had it wrong.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monstersAsRaces.htm
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Creatures_as_Races

I still want my sorcerer.


Another question, do the creature levels count towards reaching the epic levels?

[*mute83]

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Creatures_as_Races

that leads to various other races. some of his made up, and from WoW....

[*Lost and not Found]

The relevant information should be alright.

[*mute83]

i have been looking a little, but seem to find different info, guess it depends on which version i find, i guess.

there are things i dont like with the info i guess, with some of the various races :(

[*Product of Void]

you wanted to play a gnome bard anyway :P

[*mute83]

you wanted to play a gnome bard anyway 

he he. nah, i am interrested in a Str race. more then +4

those 2 links gives different info on some of the races

[*mute83]

here is 1 example of different info about races.

http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/rules/Dn ... -Races.pdf

Half-Ogre
(RoD p97)
+6 Str
–2 Dex
+2 Con
–2 Int
–2 Cha
Barbarian • Large Size
• 30’ Movement
• Darkvision 60’
• Level Adjustment +2
• +4 Natural Armor bonus to AC

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Half-Ogre_(4e_Race)

Ability Scores: +2 Strength, +2 Constitution
Size: Medium
Speed: 6
Vision: Normal



Languages: Common, Giant
Skill Bonuses: +2 Endurance, +2 Intimidate
Ogre Weapon Proficiency: You gain proficiency with the Club and the Greatclub.
Toughness: You gain Toughness as a bonus feat.
Angry Smash: When using a weapon from the Hammer or Mace groups, you can use the Angry Smash encounter power. See also: Hurling Charge (4e Feat), Skirmish (4e Feat), and Flail Hurricane (4e Feat).

and the description for them can also be different