POV"s stupid quiestion of the day 2

*Product of Void
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Posted by *Product of Void »


haflings.

now they have lightfoot that get a +1 to all saves. Does that stack with Luck of heros?

I am trying to figure out the benefit of one over the other. It seems identical just one has a crappier version of luck of heroes though if you can stack luck of heros on it then its not so crappy.

starting with a +2 to saves +1 ac seems kinda nice for one less feat and one luck of heroes. Just not sure it works that way. :confused:
*Lost and not Found
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Posted by *Lost and not Found »


I see no reason why it should not stack - Lucky and Luck of Heroes are two different feats.

But, if a strongheart halfling spends his or her bonus feat on the Luck of Heroes feat, then the strongheart would be "better" choice than a lightfoot without the feat.


Well, the third halfling kind, ghostwise, were easily unlocked by an override earlier. (Poke towards the staff regarding extra races.) They are the worst of the three, unless you have plans of multiclassing your character with levels of barbarian.



What was the first question?

And no, there are never stupid questions. Only stupid answers.
*Tildryn
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Posted by *Tildryn »


Yes, they stack.
*mute83
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Posted by *mute83 »


http://nwn2db.com/

what i sometimes do, is make a new game in the campaign in MotB, so you can level your char up in-game and see. you dont have to exit the level up room
*Knightoftheradish
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Posted by *Knightoftheradish »


In my own stupid question! Does sacred fist code of conduct thingy work with wild shape? I noticed I can flurry in wild shape so does it stand to reason I won't be taking -10 attack?
*Lost and not Found
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Posted by *Lost and not Found »


I have not tried it. But when you use wild shape, you attack by using a "Creature Weapon" granted by the shape. As a weapon, it wouldn't be far fetched for you to suffer from the -8 attack caused by the Sacred Fist vow.
*cryptc
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Posted by *cryptc »


Lost and not Found,Feb 2 2010 wrote: I have not tried it. But when you use wild shape, you attack by using a "Creature Weapon" granted by the shape. As a weapon, it wouldn't be far fetched for you to suffer from the -8 attack caused by the Sacred Fist vow.
Doubt it, since creatures with creature weapons get AOO if they don't have improved unarmed strike feat, so I suspect it counts as unarmed... would need to test to be sure though
*mute83
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Posted by *mute83 »


it might say something here. (im not in the mood to read through my self :) )

http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Druid
*Lost and not Found
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Posted by *Lost and not Found »


cryptc,Feb 2 2010 wrote:
Lost and not Found,Feb 2 2010 wrote: I have not tried it. But when you use wild shape, you attack by using a "Creature Weapon" granted by the shape. As a weapon, it wouldn't be far fetched for you to suffer from the -8 attack caused by the Sacred Fist vow.
Doubt it, since creatures with creature weapons get AOO if they don't have improved unarmed strike feat, so I suspect it counts as unarmed... would need to test to be sure though
I did some quick testing with such build as Monk 1/Sacred Fist 1/Druid 18.

I tested the character against itself using both elemental and plant shapes. Although the character screen showed what kind of AB my character should have had according to all rules, the actual attack rolls were all done with the "-8" penalty.

For example;
What was show in the character screen: 23/18/13
And what were the actual in game rolls: 15/10/5

Flurry of Blows would add cumulative -2 penalty to these attack rolls.

However, the funny thing was that the exact copy of my own character controlled by the AI did not suffer from the attack bonus penalty caused by the Sacred Fist code of conduct-thingie.

The testing was done in Vordan's Hero Creator.

And this thing was mentioned in the Druid Page, in addition to the Elemental Shape page.
*Knightoftheradish
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Posted by *Knightoftheradish »


Ouch :(
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