Touch Ac

[*Neethanial]

The way it's supposed to work:
Dodge
Dex
WIS*
CHA*
Ehancement from shields/armor
Dodge-esque feats
Deflection
*If they add to AC (Monk/Sand Halo, Nymph/Divine Shield)

Pretty much anything except raw shield/armor bonus, and natural armor.

I'm fairly certain this isn't the case. Even without enhancement factoring in, a 37 to hit my touch on a particular character isn't enough (Doomdreamer is bane to logic anyway :P)

Any chance this can be examined to see what's actually factoring into touch AC?

[*Er_Nano_Infame]

that's from pnp or nwn2 own settings? always understood even the magical bonus of armor and shield dont work.

i think bonus from combat expertise work a gainst it too . maybe luck of heroes bonus as well?

[*Sunshine]

In PnP it works like this:

AC = 10 + size modifier + Dex modifier + armor bonus +shield bonus + deflection bonus + insight bonus + natural armor bonus + dodge bonuses + other modifiers

Touch AC = AC – armor bonus – shield bonus – natural
armor bonus

Flat-footed AC = AC – Dex bonus – dodge bonuses

(Source is the Rules Compendium, pg. 15)

Might work differently in NWN2 however.

[*Whitefly]

According to the wiki:

Attacker: 1d20 + base attack bonus + [str / dex] + attack bonuses
Defender: 10 + Dexterity bonus + Dodge AC bonus + Deflection AC bonus + Size modifier

So dex-based characters can probably expect about 35 touch AC, while full-plated ones can expect about 24. A wizard might reach about 20 ab for touch attacks, 24 if you include things like Heroism, Greater, so they have a very good chance to land a touch attack against a fighter in full plate, but not so great a chance of hitting a rogue. A cleric, on the other hand, can just grant themselves 30 bab and land a touch attack against anyone 95% of the time. This is because clerics are overpowered and Divine Power should be removed from the game, but that's a conversation for another thread -.^

[*Neethanial]

So it looks like Wisdom isn't being added to touch ac. That alone would make up the difference.

[*Whitefly]

So it looks like Wisdom isn't being added to touch ac. That alone would make up the difference.

Make up the difference between what?

[*Neethanial]

Whether or not a certain touch attack roll would ever have landed a hit on my character. If wisdom isn't being applied, that would be the difference between a hit or miss.

[*Whitefly]

If you're just talking about RPing touch attacks, I think it's fair to add the wisdom bonus where relevant. In terms of gameplay, I don't know how easy it would be to change the functionality of touch attacks or even if it would be fair to do so from a balance point of view. Either way, RP-wise, it seems the effect should apply.

AC Bonus (Ex): A monk is highly trained at dodging blows, and she has a sixth sense that lets her avoid even unanticipated attacks. When unarmored and unencumbered, the monk adds her Wisdom bonus (if any) to her AC. In addition, a monk gains a +1 bonus to AC at 5th level. This bonus increases by 1 for every five monk levels thereafter (+2 at 10th, +3 at 15th, and +4 at 20th level). These bonuses to AC apply even against touch attacks or when the monk is flat-footed. She loses these bonuses when she is immobilized or helpless, when she wears any armor, when she carries a shield, or when she carries a medium or heavy load.

Halo of Sand is apparently meant to provide a much smaller bonus (deflection) than it does, but it doesn't on this server since it's filling in for monk levels on a druid. It should probably be assumed that it would add to touch AC, since whether it's monk-like or deflection, they both get added.